Episode 77

E 77 | The Emotional Life Cycle of Achieving Goals with Mie Yamashita

· 31:34 · Host: Suneet/Nick/Mie

Mie Yamashita breaks down the emotional life cycle of pursuing ambitious goals, from the excitement of uninformed optimism to the hard reality of the valley of despair. She shares personal stories of overcoming mental and physical challenges, including the tough training for her first marathon.…

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Mie Yamashita breaks down the emotional life cycle of pursuing ambitious goals, from the excitement of uninformed optimism to the hard reality of the valley of despair. She shares personal stories of overcoming mental and physical challenges, including the tough training for her first marathon. Listeners will gain powerful insights into pushing through tough times, maintaining resilience, and learning to love the process. This episode will leave you ready to persevere through your toughest moments and find success on the other side. 

Chapters:

  • 00:00:00 - Overcoming the Hype of Uninformed Optimism
  • 00:00:57 - Welcome to the Reside Platform Podcast
  • 00:01:33 - Conversation with Mie Yamashita on Goal Achievement
  • 00:04:05 - Breaking Down the Emotional Life Cycle of a Goal
  • 00:05:10 - Mie’s Marathon Journey and Personal Growth
  • 00:09:18 - Conquering the Valley of Despair
  • 00:15:23 - Strategies for Navigating the Valley of Despair
  • 00:16:18 - Pushing Through Physical and Mental Barriers
  • 00:17:30 - Finding Momentum in Informed Optimism
  • 00:18:23 - Lessons from the Marathon Experience
  • 00:19:09 - The Repeatable Cycle of Goal Success
  • 00:20:19 - The Role of Action and Dopamine in Goal Pursuit
  • 00:22:46 - Understanding the Comfort Paradox
  • 00:23:41 - The Power of Support in Personal and Professional Growth
  • 00:24:57 - Tracking Progress and Hitting Key Milestones
  • 00:28:06 - Closing Thoughts on Persevering Through Tough Times

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The complete conversation, in order. 6,408 words.

[00:00:00] MIe: Um,

[00:00:05] Suneet: your biggest goal, yet right now probably feels like the hardest thing you've ever done. Welcome to the Valley of Despair. The point where most people give up, but where champions push through.

[00:00:20] MIe: next

[00:00:23] Suneet: the clearest sign that you're on the verge of a breakthrough? The secret to success isn't avoiding the struggle, it's conquering it. And on today's episode of the reside platform podcast, the one and only Mia Yamashita is going to show you how. What's up, everybody. Welcome to another episode of the reside platform podcast. And I want to tell you, we worked hard on that intro.

[00:00:50] Suneet: Yeah,

[00:00:52] MIe: really did. We nailed it. It's, it's been nailed.

[00:00:55] Suneet: nailed it. Yes, we worked hard on that intro. And if you liked it, leave me a message wherever you see it. And let me know what you think. And I'll give you the secret of what we did. Fair enough. Okay. So today's guest is Reside Platform's very own Mia Yamashita. What's going on with you?

[00:01:17] MIe: Hey. Oh, you know, just working all day, training, aging, hanging out, coaching, loving my life.

[00:01:26] Suneet: Hey, so you just closed out. You're actually closed out. The Czeplak Tahoe event, what that was like last week, was it last

[00:01:38] MIe: Oh my God. Yeah, it was. That felt like a year ago already. That felt like a year ago already. Yeah, last week

[00:01:45] Suneet: How was

[00:01:46] MIe: it was so cool.

[00:01:47] Suneet: on that stage and in Tahoe and all that? You

[00:01:51] MIe: Like, um, well, I don't need to tell you, but I mean, that's, that's no like small thing to, for John to extend that offer in the first place. Um, so that was like huge.

[00:02:02] MIe: Um, and, and he just, He's got this thing where with his instincts, like he just trusts something and he did not micromanage that whole situation. I was nervous that he didn't micromanage me. I was like, you don't want to, you want to see like what I'm doing? And he's just like, he it's full send for him. Um, So like that, that having that much trust from him is also kind of nerve wrecking a little bit, you know, cause you don't want to mess it up.

[00:02:27] MIe: And so I'm, I feel like I did a good job. I've done a lot of great feedback and it was a really cool experience that I'm just grateful I got to have.

[00:02:35] Suneet: got a lot of good feedback,

[00:02:38] MIe: My dad,

[00:02:39] Suneet: like overwhelmingly, like too much, right? And I feel you because, yes, you're not going to be able to fit through the door next, next year. Um, because, because your head will be so big. Um, the, uh, I still feel that same way every time. Like when I start, I'm all, I don't even know what I'm doing here. Right? Like, so

[00:03:00] MIe: crazy because you have so

[00:03:03] Suneet: Well, thank you. But I still don't know what I'm

[00:03:06] MIe: you have so much to offer so much success. It's like crazy, crazy.

[00:03:12] Suneet: Thank you. Before we make this episode all about me, which maybe we should do one of those just so I can talk a lot. Um, I want to take it back.

[00:03:20] MIe: you?

[00:03:23] Suneet: I want to, I want to talk about the topic because I know you're going to kill it and I want to learn more about this. Um, so what is it? The life cycle of a goal.

[00:03:37] MIe: The

[00:03:37] Suneet: Did I say that right?

[00:03:38] MIe: life cycle of a goal.

[00:03:40] Suneet: Oh, I missed the word emotional. Weird. Um, the emotion,

[00:03:44] MIe: for you. Okay. This is one of my favorite things

[00:03:48] Suneet: the emotional life cycle of a goal. Let's hear it.

[00:03:55] MIe: emotional life cycle of a goal because when I learned it, it made everything click and it made me more, um, tol it, like, increased my tolerance for the process. I didn't realize initially that I didn't have a, like a gap there. Like I didn't realize I was trying to bypass the process constantly. And so I actually was able to like look back at my life and see these moments where I would just repeated a pattern over and over and over again.

[00:04:24] MIe: And I thought I was having like incremental growth, but I was really just in like this left line vicious cycle. And so the emotional life cycle of a goal really, um, uh, shows you what it's like to, you have to go, like the only way I was through, that's the concept, the emotional life cycle of a goal breaks that down really well, which I have a hilarious story around, but I think matches up perfectly.

[00:04:48] MIe: If you're interested in hearing it, it's really fun. It's going to make people laugh, but it's humiliating for me. I'll do it.

[00:04:55] Suneet: All right. Yes. I'm all for the self deprecating humor. Yes. Go for it.

[00:04:59] MIe: All right. So, um, I am not a runner. I, I didn't grow up a runner. Let's put it that way. I was like the kid who walked the mile in high school and, um, okay. Right. Like, cause running is dumb.

[00:05:11] MIe: And so, um, I'm just kidding. I ended up running a marathon, but I, uh, I, I, my former partner, um, he ran marathons for fun. He was like a total freak of nature. He's the father of my son. You know, all that. And when we first started dating, I was like, you know, um, he told me he did marathons and I was like, I would, I want to try a marathon, you know?

[00:05:32] MIe: And for my 30th birthday, he signed me up for one as like my birthday present. So I had to like train for this marathon. And, um, at the time I was just like showing up to, um, like the planning part of the process where I was like, you know, going on Pinterest and, you Looking at all of the running plans and the shoes and the goos and all that stuff.

[00:05:58] MIe: And I was like planning, planning, planning, planning to try to eventually perform. But I was really in this planning phase. And that is the first stage of the emotional life cycle of a goal. It's uninformed optimism. It's all of the energy around the potential future of the goal, but none of the context.

[00:06:17] MIe: And so it's just like, Okay, I feel really good about this, and I think it's going to be awesome, and here's all the things I want to see happen, and you're like, caught up in this like, flood of endorphins that you get from it, but you virtually have no context to really know what you're going to be up against, so that's like, the very first stage. Then, you have to like, take action from that point. You have to, uh, take all of the plans and actually start executing on them. We see this with agents all the time, right? Like they have all these plans of all these contacts they're going to make and, you know, all these things they're going to do, and it can kind of fall flat.

[00:06:51] MIe: You know what I'm talking

[00:06:52] Suneet: Everybody all the time, right? Like it can be about fitness. Our leaders are in relationship. You want to work on stuff, stuff you want to do with your kids, all the big plans and you just fall flat because life,

[00:07:08] MIe: And that leads to the second step, which is informed pessimism. And when you start taking steps towards the goal, context sets in, and it's usually where people, that is the first stage where people actually get stuck. stuck in that pattern. That's the pattern I was stuck in, which it would be like uninformed optimism.

[00:07:30] MIe: Oh, I'm going to go try something else now, or this didn't work. So I'm going to do this instead. And my gut is telling me this is what I need to do. And you have all this cognitive dissonance that doesn't allow you to see the pattern that you're in. And so people usually, that's the first fail is they will get to the, they'll start taking some steps.

[00:07:47] MIe: Context will set in, they'll, they'll wear themselves out on the intensity piece. They crash and they go back to uninformed optimism. I see people stuck in that stage constantly. And that was me for 30 years of my life.

[00:08:00] Suneet: Oh, same.

[00:08:03] MIe: And I had, um, I had started like actually taking this.

[00:08:09] Suneet: This is really deep. It's so good. Sure.

[00:08:14] MIe: started following the Pinterest plan for the marathon training. And, um, like the first Run on the Pinterest plan was like a two mile run and that was like me taking the first steps outside of uninformed optimism. So like, I'm going for the run, which ended up turning into more of like a, like a walk run thing where I'd like stop, walk, stop, walk, run, stop.

[00:08:37] MIe: And then I like gave up halfway through and I was like, I'm going home, but tomorrow. You know, I'm trying to, I'm going to go hard in the paint. It's just so hot today and I didn't bring enough water and you know, whatever. I go the next day and I get, don't even get any further than I did the last time.

[00:08:52] MIe: And then the next day it's like, I have the plan and I never do it. And this is how we fade because we have all that intensity, all that energy. And it's completely diffused because our expectations did not match what would actually need to occur for us to get anywhere close to the goal. So uninformed optimism is that space where you, you show up for a little bit, you see what it really feels like, and you give up because the plan was, you know, never good to begin with. you can break through that, if you can break through uninformed optimism, where you keep showing up and you keep showing up, even if it's ugly, even if it's bad, even if you suck to the first few days, but you just keep doing it. You'll start catching a stride and you'll get into what's called the valley of despair.

[00:09:34] MIe: And this is like the hardest part of the emotional life cycle of a goal. For me, it took me several weeks. To, um, actually try to go back to uninformed optimism and I was meeting with one of my leaders at the time and, um, every, we, every week we'd look at my goals and I have run a marathon on there and he'd check in every week and I'd give him a story.

[00:09:57] MIe: And then he'd be like, you know what? I don't think you're going to run this marathon. Like, you haven't done any of the work and you haven't, like, should we just take it off of your goals? And I was like, no, I'm doing it. He's like, hire a coach then, like, you need to hire someone to help you because you're not doing it.

[00:10:10] MIe: At this point, I had 14 weeks until the marathon was actually going to happen, which any marathon runner out there will tell you that's not enough time. It's to go from like nothing, like never ran any time ever to like running a marathon in 14 weeks. It's really not enough time. I call a coach, I get a recommendation and she's like, you're going to get injured.

[00:10:30] MIe: This isn't a good move. And I was like, I'm doing this, whether or not you help me. So you're going to help me or what? And she agrees, she gets me my first long run and it's five miles. And this is where the embarrassing part is that I'm about to put out there into the world for everyone to hear on this podcast.

[00:10:45] MIe: I go on this long run. Okay. It's five miles at that time, though, it might as well have been a marathon for me.

[00:10:53] Suneet: Five miles would be a marathon for me right now. Yeah,

[00:10:56] MIe: Yeah, I was dying and it was like North Carolina summer, humid, hot, you know, like it was all not good, Tom, my, my former partner, he was running with me every long run. I did. Okay. And he's a Marine. He's a hardcore Marine. And so, like, he wouldn't let me give up. He showed no mercy. And I'm like complaining the whole time, you know, because I'm hating every minute of my life.

[00:11:19] MIe: Um, and, uh, we, we get through, you know, like halfway point and, um, and like gassed. And I want to be done. I want to be done really, really, really bad. Long story short. And this five mile run, I cried. I peed my pants and I threw up like five miles and like, I was like, Um, I'm peeing and he was like, stop. I'm like, I can't, I don't know why I'm peeing and then, and I'm like mad, mad that this is happening because I'm humiliated now and I'm crying and then the crying makes me puke and so then I'm like puking and I'm thinking if he's seeing all this, he's for sure going to let me quit and he didn't bat an eye, dude, but he was like, we have two miles left.

[00:12:07] MIe: Let's go. So now I'm like, I hate this guy. I moved all the way to North Carolina to be with this person. This, I had never been so ready to quit. Well, I've never wanted to quit something more, anything in my entire life ever. I was, I was so angry and frustrated that I wanted to scream, but the people pleaser in me was more worried about quitting and looking bad in front of them, even though I had just humiliated myself, like unintentionally that I wouldn't let myself quit because I didn't want him to look, I didn't want to look in this moment. I'm thinking about. This, this extreme frustration I'm having, and I, I have one of those childhoods where you look back at it and you're like, dude, how did you survive that? And people told me my whole life, man, that was, I can't believe you're so strong and you've overcome this. And so I went around my whole life thinking that nothing was hard for me.

[00:13:08] MIe: And that everyone else, like, you know, thought things that they thought were hard were not that hard. And what I realized in this valley of despair moment was that I had been conditioned to hard things. And that my threshold for what was hard was showing up as the conduit. The conduit was this running, this physical challenge.

[00:13:28] MIe: And I'm seeing everything in my past that I didn't do because I'd never reached that moment of, I've never reached that moment of wanting to quit so badly and then pushing through it. That never happened to me before. I would just give up and go do the next, like, start over, go to the next restaurant, you know, work at the next bar or whatever.

[00:13:46] MIe: I'm like, I

[00:13:46] Suneet: Sure. Yeah.

[00:13:47] MIe: did. Push through and I didn't die, you know, I thought for sure I was going to die. I didn't die. I finished this long run and I'm like, I'm having, I go home, I get in the shower, fully clothed, crying in cold water. And just thinking like, what else didn't I do with my life? Because that's the first time I've ever experienced real challenge before.

[00:14:07] MIe: I'd never, ever been up against that threshold. And so I'm like, I'd never even been close. Never even been close to that. So the valley of despair is that moment where you feel like it's over and there's nothing I

[00:14:21] Suneet: Where you're being yourself and crying.

[00:14:24] MIe: Yeah. When you're peeing yourself and crying, that's a telltale sign.

[00:14:27] MIe: You're in the valley of despair. No, but like when you're in that moment of like, I, I hate this. I want out, like, I cannot do this anymore. Or like, I don't know how I'm going to persevere. That's the valley of despair is the hardest moment to go agents get there in six to eight weeks. I don't know. I don't know the science behind this, Suneet, but when I ran my coaching program, uh, at the market center five years ago, I would get agents into production.

[00:14:59] MIe: I would get them into the activities, like showing up, showing up, showing up, showing up. And then they would come crying in my office and I'd have to talk them off the ledge. And then like that, like clockwork, they would, they'd pop off, their business would pop off. I started paying attention six to eight weeks and now, you know, five years later, I've trained with thousands of agents.

[00:15:19] MIe: I have it on my curriculum. Week seven is Valley of despair day. And I know it because they're dead. They don't want to go any further. We see, this is when we'll see drops. And so now I just plan for it. I give them the whole day off. We do nothing. And I'm like, they have to spend the time. They would have been there to go do something for themselves.

[00:15:36] MIe: It totally rejuvenates them. And then they, like, they have, they have an uptick. And so, um, for agents to get them out of the valley of despair and to get them into the next stage, which is informed optimism, which is where they catch their stride. Um, you do all that work on the front end. All that work has to happen on the front end, managing expectations, like, um, uh, preparing them for what's ahead with the value of despair, telling them what it's going to feel like telling them what it's going to look like when they're in it, totally holding space for that moment, like sitting in it with them.

[00:16:10] MIe: And there's a line to that because we can't just have, you know, people endlessly upset, but to hold space for that valley of despair moment, and then get them back into action, because that is a critical point where they will fall off and they'll go back to uninformed optimism, which will look like. I think I need to go to a different team.

[00:16:30] MIe: I think I need to go to a different brokerage. I think I need to get a job and they can't tolerate the pain of the valley of despair. And so they go back to uninformed optimism.

[00:16:40] Suneet: Wow. So true. So much. I am not getting a six pack from riding a Peloton. I am going to start going for Marathon runs that'll work.

[00:16:53] MIe: I'm just going to say, yeah, but when they pushed through the valley of despair, which. I, it's extremely possible. And, and like, you've worked with so many agents, you've seen this happen, where it's like, you've, they,

[00:17:07] Suneet: so much. Yeah.

[00:17:09] MIe: right. You've been through it

[00:17:11] Suneet: Yeah. Every day.

[00:17:14] MIe: you push through it, which for me didn't happen until the 11 mile run, the seven mile run, I tried to pee in my pants and I threw up again, and then on the nothing fell run, um, the following weekend, um, I don't know what my deal is, bro. Um, the nine mile run. I, I was still,

[00:17:36] Suneet: you know. Yeah.

[00:17:40] MIe: I haven't peed my pants since, so, um, I, I hated it. It was awful, but I, like, it was an improvement. I didn't cry. I didn't pee my pants. I didn't throw up and I finished it. And like, I was complaining the whole time and I was dead, but I did it. The 11 mile run was so slow, but I felt, started to feel good after it.

[00:18:03] MIe: And then the 13 mile run, my pace started getting better. And then, you know, the 15 mile run, um, I was starting to like it. Like I was starting to get that runner's. And so the uninformed, the informed optimism stage is when you start catching the stride. It's when you've stayed in the activities long enough.

[00:18:21] MIe: You may not be seeing the results you were hoping you'd be getting. You may not be seeing as many wins, but you just persevere through it. You trust the process. And then it's like, it's like that, you know, uh, slowly then suddenly concept. That's the hockey stick effect. That's when like the pop happens. And then I was like, my pace was good. My VO2 max was good. Like I was in a total stride. I did get injured. Um, I did roll my IT band in this. And I had to go on, it was two weeks before the marathon at the 18 mile run, mile 10. My, I like my knee goes out. So I have to like do light work. I'm on the elliptical, I'm doing the rower just to keep my like cardio up.

[00:19:04] MIe: Um, but I didn't have any more long runs before the marathon. So which random aside at that time, I was quite the partier and we, I found out, I didn't know ahead of time until we got there that the marathon was in Vegas. And we went saline on the night before and like really hard. So I had to run the marathon the next day at 4:00 PM on the strip.

[00:19:27] MIe: And um, and I felt great for the first 10 miles. And then my knee goes out again and I hobbled for 16 miles, um, uh, 16 point something miles, uh, on this marathon. And I finished it. It was five, five hours and nine minutes. And then three months later, I did a half marathon and then I don't like three months after that.

[00:19:47] MIe: I did a supported, um, extreme triathlon with time. And so like, I, you know, I got into that joint fulfillment phase, which is the final phase of the emotional life cycle of a goal that you go through. It's like, once you catch that stride. You get to join fulfillment and then the kicker, which a lot of people don't typically realize is then you just repeat this process over and over and over again for the rest of your life.

[00:20:10] MIe: And the more you do it, the more you start to have a, like an awareness that you're in it. And then you learn how to lean into the process. You start to respect the process and you start to expect the process. And so then when you're in the valley of despair, you're like, Cool. I know where I'm at. I know how to navigate this.

[00:20:26] MIe: I've done this before. And it makes the process start to be enjoyable. And so the emotional life cycle of a goal at first is like painful, hard, not fun. Seems like you're not going to make it through. And then eventually you, you own it.

[00:20:40] Suneet: I mean, I just love this and it's like, as I'm listening to you, like, and as everyone's listening to this and watching this, I want you to really think right. It's like, it's shit stuff really hard right now. Do you feel like quitting? Right? Is it the worst? Do you feel hopeless? Like Beyond that hopelessness is where the opportunity is,

[00:21:11] MIe: Yeah.

[00:21:12] Suneet: right?

[00:21:13] Suneet: That minute you feel like giving up is when you have to keep pushing forward. So it sounds like people got to take action. Mia, how do you keep pushing forward?

[00:21:23] MIe: So, um, we, Dr. Andrew Huberman talks about this, um, uh,

[00:21:29] Suneet: Shout out to Andrew Huberman. Maybe he'll give us a shout on his podcast.

[00:21:33] MIe: I love him. Uh, he's awesome. Um, he, he

[00:21:38] Suneet: though. Long episodes.

[00:21:40] MIe: too long, too long. Uh, I can't, I don't get to be out. I gotta toddler, you know. Um, but no, I catch his stuff on Instagram because I, I get the, I get the, the highlight reels, but I, I. Was exposed to him the first time on Tom Belu. Um, and he talked about, um, the dopamine response and how most of us are, uh, have conditioned our dopamine response to the goal when we should really, um, condition it to the process.

[00:22:06] MIe: And him, um, him and Ed Mullet had a podcast to where they talked about like that 1% better every day. So it's the same concept. And when you're in the valley of despair and you need to, the only way to, to get out of it is through it. And the only way you go through it is by action. Exactly what you said.

[00:22:24] MIe: But it doesn't have to be these massive, like, intense applications of action. It, it just mastered the art of showing up. Like, literally just keep going. Like, even if they give you like 10%, Take the 10 percent and tomorrow push for the 15 percent like, and everyone's going to be different. Some agents, you know, and, and, and leaders too, the capacity feels really shrunken when we're in the valley of despair and we don't feel like we have a lot to give, give everything you can, even if it's just this much, like give everything you can, because you're reconditioning your dopamine response.

[00:22:57] MIe: And as you continue to do that over and over again, you will train your brain to start enjoying the process when you do that. And it'll be easier to apply action over time.

[00:23:06] Suneet: I think you're building the anterior midsingular cortex part of your brain by going through the hard stuff and getting out on the other end, to reference Huberman again, because I do, I, I too, listen, um, yeah, it is, uh, the, the anterior midsingular cortex, yeah, um, Is maybe we'll just tap, make it like a reel of this part and tag him and see what happens.

[00:23:34] Suneet: Um, but,

[00:23:35] MIe: hilarious. That's

[00:23:36] Suneet: but that's like the, the nerve in your brain or whatever that gets developed as you do the harder stuff, making it easier to do more hard stuff, right? Like they always talk about Goggins, you know, cause he's such a bad ass and how he's like, you know, he runs on no cartilage anymore. Right. So just the hard stuff, he can just get through it.

[00:24:00] MIe: That's the comfort paradox. Um, when you're avoiding things that are hard, you're more uncomfortable. When you lean into things that are uncomfortable, they're less hard. That's

[00:24:11] Suneet: Sure. But I mean, the valley of despair feels hard, right?

[00:24:15] MIe: 100%. Like, there's no way around it. There's no way around it. The only way around it is to not do it, and then you're just stuck in the pattern. And that, that becomes the choice though, Sunit. Is it is hard to grow? I mean, you and I both, we know what their work self development work. It is tough to evolve yourself.

[00:24:31] MIe: It is tough to break through your patterns. It is really hard to look in the mirror and see all of the ugly stuff that we don't want to look at. And then to like, accept it, learn how to work through it, learn how to shift it, learn how to change it. Like, you have to be, you have to want it. Um, you can't passively do that.

[00:24:47] MIe: And so that That's the, that's the choice. And when you go through the value despair is like, do I want to stay uncomfortably comfortable or do I want to get better?

[00:24:58] Suneet: I think something else that you said that really resonated is you had support through the valley, through coaches, through Tom, um, that, and I think a lot of people, whether it's a fitness journey or whether it's a business journey, like whether it's a mental health journey or a relational journey, right?

[00:25:21] Suneet: Bye. Lean on professionals to help guide you through, you know, find yourself an Obi Wan and, you know, be that hero of your journey, going down to the depths of the frigging Death Star, getting your way out, right?

[00:25:39] MIe: The depths of tattooing. Um, you know, do you find that that's also a struggle, especially for high performers, um, Like before they get to like that next level is being able to ask for help or accept help or like admit that they need the help and the high performers that do get the help, they go beyond anything they ever thought they would.

[00:26:03] Suneet: That's interesting. I'm like thinking about myself. I don't think that's true for me.

[00:26:12] MIe: Yeah, I, I, I'm asking, I don't know. You are, you are. Angel human being, nothing wrong with you at all. Um, no,

[00:26:27] Suneet: good. Like,

[00:26:27] MIe: they ask for help.

[00:26:30] Suneet: yeah, no. So you get hopeful about the idea. You start to learn what it's really going to take. It gets super duper hard. You get some sort of opportunity and a breakthrough, then, you know, then you build that muscle and then you're on your way to achieving it. How does somebody effectively like track that process you think?

[00:26:55] Suneet: Cause I mean, and you've, I've told you this, I write my goals down every morning. Right. Um, just so they're top of mind throughout my day. Does some, I guess the better way would be to break it down into milestones, right? What's your,

[00:27:16] MIe: okay. So there's two and I, and I do think it'll depend on the person. And I also think there's some trial and error here. Um, benchmarks helped me a lot and benchmarks tend to help agents a lot, but when, even when the benchmarks are small, if there's like, Like, okay, I'm on my weight loss journey right now, like my health journey, uh, with Shannon and Alex Black, shout out, shout out to Blacks.

[00:27:42] MIe: Um, in the beginning of that, Like it doesn't, the scale wasn't moving at all. So even though I had like really easy benchmarks, I mean, if I hadn't done that work around mastering, they're showing up, which is the second option, I think, or maybe where people should start. Um, I don't know if I would have been able to keep going without one support.

[00:28:02] MIe: And then to also like this practice and this discipline of learning how to show up and like staying right in front of where I'm at at the time and being okay with that. So like. I think that when we get hyper focused on the lead measure part, which is all I got to do is show up to the walk. Okay, the walk is supposed to be 30 minutes.

[00:28:22] MIe: It's supposed to be zone to cardio. And that's the goal that I want to hit. That's an easy benchmark to hit. But there were several days where I just did not mentally was not there. Like, you know, but for whatever reason that I was getting in at the last minute, just, you know, Parenting, whatever my reason was, some days it just didn't go the way I wanted it to, and that can be a defeating moment where we're not able to persevere.

[00:28:47] MIe: And so I got dedicated to the show up part. I showed up to the walk, I walked into the gym, you know, like, and James Clear talks about this in Atomic Habits of like, just like do the next thing and the next thing and the next thing. So I think that's the thing. The foundation, and then it becomes easier to get to some of those, like benchmarks along the way.

[00:29:04] MIe: We're now like, and my goals are like five pound increments usually, or 10 pound increments, depending on what I'm trying to hit. Those are a lot easier for me now, because I know. I got a minimum six weeks before I hit that. In the beginning, that was too big for me.

[00:29:20] Suneet: Dude. Good. This is so good. So how do you like talk about this in the reside rise training at all?

[00:29:30] MIe: Yeah, I don't talk about the emotional life cycle of a goal as in depth, but I prepare them for the process. I do usually, um, before a team joins RISE, I'll usually do this training with their teams. Um, like go onto a team meeting and train them on emotional life cycle of a goal.

[00:29:48] Suneet: Wow. Yeah. I mean, that makes so much sense because you have to know that it's going to be hard, right? You're giving them that. Information right off the bat, which I guess the goal is to shrink down all the bad stuff, right? By knowing what you're getting into.

[00:30:07] MIe: to take the edge off of the fear of it.

[00:30:11] Suneet: Yeah. Let's take the edge off the fear of that. Good, man. That's so good. What else do you have to add? That's fire.

[00:30:20] MIe: I think, I think the last thing we can close with this is two things. Your expectations are your own suffering. And so detached from what you think it's supposed to look like, feel like, how long it's supposed to take, remove all of that. Um, cause that is going to, uh, um, you'll, you'll, you'll create your own, your own prison, you know, your own prison of, of frustration and anger.

[00:30:43] MIe: Um, so one is that don't be attached to what it has to look like. And instead, um, Fall in love with the process, fall in love with the steps along the way, and you will incrementally become the version of yourself that you want to become.

[00:30:56] Suneet: It's true. Show up, just get to the gym and do something. Right. Good. So

[00:31:02] MIe: my, my beginnings were rough, and now I'm like, I'm busting out bicep curls, and I'm like, man, I wish I was recording myself right now. This is good.

[00:31:10] Suneet: Get some content, some gym content for this. Um, yeah, that's so powerful. Like I just, so much sense and especially around the whole training thing, like, I really think that takeaways from today. And also if everybody listening and watching this, uh, Reside platform podcast episode where we referenced Andrew Huberman three times. Um, for, for all those, for all those people, like just know, right.

[00:31:49] Suneet: Like. Be realistic with yourself, show up every day and we'll see you at the top,

[00:31:59] MIe: Love that.

[00:32:00] Suneet: right? See you at the top meal. Where can people reach out to you, um, to say hi

[00:32:07] MIe: Um, Instagram. Mia Yamashita official. Thank you. So neat.

[00:32:11] Suneet: official? Yeah,

[00:32:12] MIe: Okay. I guess I, okay. That's a funny story. But anyway, so neat. So neat is one of my coaches. I'm very lucky because he keeps me in line. Um, Mia Yamashita official Instagram and then also facebook. com backslash Mia Yamashita official M I E Y A M A S H I T A official.

[00:32:35] Suneet: good. And before we leave, like any secret stories, what the reason that we're laughing about Instagram is Mia has another Instagram with a silly name.

[00:32:46] MIe: Totem ago, still been,

[00:32:47] Suneet: toast my goats, Chauvin. And I said, like, this ain't my space, bro. Like, come on. Like, this is professional. Ain't nobody looking for toast my goats.

[00:33:00] MIe: you'll get it. Okay. That's a moving quote. Uh, I've had that for like 13 years and I'm attached to it. So I created a new Instagram just for you. It's

[00:33:11] Suneet: Yes. You can. Yes. It's curated. And it looks good. And I've been tagging. I've been tagging both, I think, just cause I'm not

[00:33:17] MIe: Yeah. Yeah. You're the best thing.

[00:33:20] Suneet: yes, I have two Instagrams too. I don't even think you'd follow my other one. Yeah. Okay. True. So, um, everybody watching, I really hope you got something out today.

[00:33:31] Suneet: I totally did. If you did, or when you did, because I know you did. Share it with a friend, share it with somebody that you want to be sick. You want to see success succeed. Share it with somebody you want to see succeed. Give us a like, and a comment. We're not doing any ads on this podcast. Uh, if you want more information about me as training and rise and everything we got going in the reside platform podcast, go to the reside platform.

[00:33:59] Suneet: com. We'll have a link in the show notes and we'll see you on the next episode of the reside podcast. Platform podcast.

[00:34:09] MIe: Thank you. Bye.

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