80. Future Fun: A 2054 Episode Beamed to 2024

[00:00:00] Erum: Hey, Carl, how's it going?

[00:00:04] Karl: Hey Ron, what day is today?

[00:00:05] Erum: Today is May 29th, 2054. Wow. never checked. Time anymore. So I was like, wait, what time?

[00:00:17] Karl: And is this like our 000th episode or something like that? How did that happen?

[00:00:21] Erum: Oh my gosh. I mean, our AI took over, they work with our production AI and our guests AI, and they've been just churning out episodes. when we would do the episodes weekly, which is like an eon now.

[00:00:34] Karl: Yeah, I mean, that was definitely in the 2020s for sure.

[00:00:37] Erum: Yeah. Yeah. And now they're like every hour, Cause it's there's a lot going on. So people need to learn and we're learning, they're capturing information from our neural nets, our AIs, and they're churning out content. So what about you? what's been going on?

[00:00:52] Erum: I mean, this is crazy. Why are we doing this?

[00:00:55] Karl: to be honest, I only listen to the AI summary once a day because there's so much going on. I feel like I just woke up. It's crazy. There's so much going on. I think it made sense for us to create an original episode and go back to our roots and then beam this episode back to 2024.

[00:01:14] Karl: Yeah. Yeah. Hello past,Yeah, didn't you just get back from, beta space?

[00:01:20] Erum: Oh yes. Oh my gosh. Remember when we would do syn by beta? we went to those back in the day, probably, which is, our listeners in 2024 went I guess a couple of months from today, but syn by beta on the moon. beta space. It was great. I've gone every single year since it started on the moon, like 10 or 20 years ago. We've been

[00:01:41] Karl: Yeah, 20 years ago. Yeah, I've never gone because my smart toilet says I'm not fit enough to go, even though I know I'm fitter than I was back then.

[00:01:49] Erum: Yeah. But didn't you take the moon drugs? We're all taking moon drugs. So you can just, easily get into low earth orbit or microgravity. So you don't be fit anymore. You didn't listen to that Seth Yekatan AI episode when he was talking about moon drugs.

[00:02:04] Karl: yeah, I mean, I've taken the space elevator up to low Earth orbit many times, but I can't quite make the leap from the top of the space elevator to beta space or the moon. don't know. I guess I'm still old school that way.

[00:02:18] Erum: all you do is just hop off the space elevator and you just glide along. I mean, technology does accelerate at a very fast pace. So all of the people that had some effects of being in it's negligent. I mean, I know it's time and time is our precious resource, but you can do everything you're doing on earth.

[00:02:39] Erum: in the space shuttle from this elevator to the moon. wouldn't be any different, but I'm sure you have your reasons.

[00:02:46] Karl: Well, the big reason is there's not enough sunlight this photosynthesis that I've installed into my biology wouldn't work as well because there's not as sunlight.

[00:02:55] Karl: I actually started eating food again. kind of miss that though. Sometimes

[00:02:59] Erum: I can't believe you got the photosynthesis treatment. I got a little bit, on my hands, but you got full body photosynthesis, I mean, I still enjoy eating, I know it sounds gross, now, to you, to actually eat food, but, I still like, the idea of tantalizing my taste buds, and, the whole sensory olfaction, I still like to play that game.

[00:03:19] Karl: Well, I still have to eat a little bit because I have to keep the microbiome healthy, but I don't really eat that much,

[00:03:26] Erum: Mm hmm. But you look great. haven't seen you like in real life for a while. I've been seeing your avatars. It looks like you have a green beard. Is that from photosynthesis?

[00:03:35] Karl: yeah, that's one of the side effects. A lot of the people who have had the photosynthetic implant do have a green tinge to their skin. but you can also engineer that out and you can make it almost invisible.

[00:03:47] Erum: no. Keep it, man. You're rocking it. I love it. I love it. It looks like a grassy facial patch. I love it.

[00:03:54] Karl: Well, since it's been a while since we've done a recorded episode like this, it's probably been like 15 years because our avatars have been doing it for us. what have you been doing? Did you go to Mars?

[00:04:05] Erum: Yes, I went to Mars once, and I used that new wormhole that just popped out, but, I don't really go to Mars often. I now send my robot fleet there,

[00:04:16] Erum: yeah, I have a robot fleet. It's swarm robotics robot fleet that flies to Mars. and it's fully equipped with, of course, cameras and, different, sensors especially for gathering environmental microbiome data.

[00:04:29] Erum: terraformation is a thing now. for our listeners out there, terraformation is a thing. so now we're sending environmental data to Mars. I also made a Mars scenticizer. So for our friends in 2024, your room can smell like Mars. it's been quite some time.

[00:04:47] Erum: I know it sounds gimmicky, but it does sell, people do like their places to smell like Mars. so I've been doing pretty well on that front. I also share live feeds of the Mars terrain to help with different meditation apps and programs. And that really helps my people get a cosmic perspective. it's been doing well and that also sells.

[00:05:11] Karl: I've used the Mars one. I tried the Sentinelizer. It didn't really do anything for me, but I do love those Mars meditations. I find them very peaceful. And, given that there's like 10 million people roaming all over that planet, I'm surprised that you can still find a lot of places that are still untouched by mankind.

[00:05:28] Erum: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's untouched by mankind, but touched by my robots. That sounds a little weird, but, my robots can go there. they function well in negative 70 degrees. Celsius, so they function well in very cold temperatures you saw it, it was great, but have you gone to Mars, Carl?

[00:05:47] Erum: Have you been to Mars? I mean, I guess you're not going to moon, but have you at least been to Mars?

[00:05:50] Karl: I sent some robots there, but, I kind of like being here on Earth To be totally honest, I know again, it's sounds old school, but I like being here. And I've actually spent a lot of time in the Rio Tinto underground colonies, because there's a lot of biology and experimentation that goes on there.

[00:06:09] Karl: And those experiments actually end up being moved to the moon or to Mars. So you've probably been around that biology.

[00:06:16] Erum: Oh, yeah, yeah. I've seen it. there's certain similar readouts from both, Rio Tinto underground colony, but also, other places on earth that are getting sent back to Mars, but also adjusted for, of course, Mars parameters. You're living in one of those underground colonies, right?

[00:06:33] Karl: No, I usually just visit them. I know there's people who never leave. They're beautiful. Some are more beautiful than others, but I'm actually on Baffin Island, which is a northeastern Canadian island where I'm studying different microbes that live in that environment.

[00:06:49] Erum: Oh, wow. What types of microbes are you guys, checking out up there? what kind of cool stuff are they doing? I

[00:06:55] Karl: Well, because of the melting of the ice caps accelerated, there's more microbial life on the planet than ever. And there have been a couple of interesting pandemics as a result of that, but we've seemed to have been able to overcome those quite quickly. So it's important.

[00:07:10] Karl: And there's a lot of people who are up here just studying the microbes and studying the permafrost and what it releases into the atmosphere. But I have a question for you, Rome. When was the last time you were in Brooklyn? I feel like that's the last time we saw each other. But we've seen each other since then through our avatars

[00:07:25] Erum: never left Brooklyn, technically. I have lived in other places. I was in Japan for a few years. There's been a lot of great advances over there. But I've been helping a few companies with creating unique bioreactor formulations for food and ingredients. And Japan was of course, way ahead of its time.

[00:07:46] Erum: They were doing amazing things in 2024,

[00:07:49] Karl: tell me more about japan. else is going on there? How much time do you spend there?

[00:07:53] Erum: Yeah. I spent about, guess, five years at this point, for our listeners who are yet to experience this, Japan undergoed a great bio transition. I think in 2024, there were seven. Japan was still at a peak of, intense technological development with computers and software, and living a lot of their lives.

[00:08:13] Erum: and actually I'm sure a lot of our listeners, live a lot of their lives on screens. So I remember like computers, laptops, and, I know that's pretty much everyday working life for our listeners in 2024, but there was a lot of research that came out of Japan that there was. huge effect of what they call techno stress on people that have been just online all the time.

[00:08:34] Erum: So what they ended up doing, in Japan for this great bio transition was they just got rid of all the screens. They got rid of the screens, got rid of the phones, they leveraged neural nets, voice technology so that they could live their lives in the real world rather than through screens.

[00:08:50] Erum: And it had such an amazing consequence on their economy, on their quality of life. All the data that was coming on and how happy the people in Japan were through this great bio transition that a lot of companies followed suit right afterwards. And because of that transition, there was just a huge.

[00:09:08] Erum: influx of bio innovation that started coming out with people then looking to biology to make different products, experiences and technologies, especially through the concept of forest regeneration. So it was such a huge thing that happened and something that's going to be coming soon for our listeners.

[00:09:28] Karl: I know that, there's not a place on the planet where you can go where you don't see a Japanese forest being grown. So, back in the 2020s, we were talking about rewilding parts of the planet. It seems like forest regeneration was the way to do it. we didn't even talk about like the algae regeneration in the oceans, but that also seems to be a big part of what Japan has exported, for the rest of the world.

[00:09:51] Erum: Oh, yeah. That is right. So that was a beautiful thing. I think that also came at the cusp of the 2030s and 40s, which are really rough. Do you remember that, Carl?

[00:10:01] Karl: Yeah, I try not to remember it too much

[00:10:03] Karl: because they were pretty rough. it got super technical. There was a lot of divisions. We had some wars break out, the dominant superpowers, were vying more power. And, it was hard.

[00:10:14] Erum: Oh, my gosh. Yeah. again, for our listeners in 2024,

[00:10:18] Erum: embrace yourselves, I will say.

[00:10:20] Erum: I think, In our listeners, grandparents time, there was a lot of, violence amongst people, but what happens in the future is there's less toll on human lives, but huge toll on economic infrastructure and physical infrastructure that challenges the lives of millions.

[00:10:36] Erum: it was rough, but people had to reinvent their lives. They didn't necessarily go to the powers that be that were running on a chemical economy that were running on internets and algorithms that were Really unethically created and they started from scratch and they look to biology and new ways of organizing so, you know, they say like, a phoenix rise from the ashes, you have to undergo great, suffering in order to really, Follow and find the beauty.

[00:11:07] Erum: we've been doing a lot more spiritual recognition as we get older. but that's what happens. And now we're on a good path here in 2054.

[00:11:16] Karl: Yeah, I mean, I think something that we started to see, the beginnings of in 2024 was the rise of these, temporary autonomous zones. This idea of the network state was something that people were talking about. we saw the one or two day country that was formed in Montenegro around, um, what at that point was called, decentralized finance, which is now just finance and also decentralized biology, which is now just biology.

[00:11:45] Karl: And then we saw the Vidalia project in, Honduras, which is in Roatan, which is always historically a place that people had escaped to. And we saw those kinds of experiments all over the world. And I think, seeing those experiments. Happened while at the same time, big bureaucracy started to crumble, really made the transition to where we are today a lot easier.

[00:12:05] Karl:

[00:12:06] Erum: And another great thing that happened too, was that. We had more women in power, our non binary friends, our biologists. Cause I think in 2024, there still weren't many, or really any women in power. People to identify as non binary more back in 2024, but now it's very commonplace.

[00:12:26] Erum: you must have a scientific degree in biology or other types of sciences to be considered for having a position of power. So having a science background is very important and you have to demonstrate, I mean, not a background. Let me rephrase that. You have to have a command of science.

[00:12:44] Erum: So now that we put into place more rigorous testing of our leadership, ensuring that they have a strong understanding of the way the world works Before they hold a position of power has really changed the game. So for you folks back in 2024, if you can accelerate that and ensure your leaders understand how science and biology and chemistry work and how human emotion works, and they take a good look at themselves now,

[00:13:12] Erum: The dream that we're living now, maybe it would happen sooner. So we'll see. But do that now. I mean, now it's common, right, Carl? I you took those exams.

[00:13:22] Karl: Yeah, I barely passed them, to

[00:13:23] Karl: be honest. They were hard,

[00:13:26] Karl: but anyone who, links their neural device to the internet can learn, the basics of science quite quickly. the better equipped you will be for this future.

[00:13:35] Karl: I think things really started changing when, we elected the second Hawaiian, to the president of the United States. Jennifer Doudna was elected for president and that really changed all things.

[00:13:47] Erum: Yeah. We've definitely shifted our spend a bit more. we started studying the impact of biodiversity on the bioeconomy and. How to rewild places more quickly because the more land that is in use, and helping people and, people we define not just as humans these days, we define them as other animals as well.

[00:14:09] Erum: Because I know in 2024, remember, we're still living in a very human centric world, but all the animals, we, started giving them rights. And honoring them and giving them personhood. so they have that in 2054, which also helps with rewilding. So we have a nice honor system amongst animals and plants, and we'd have a huge respect for our planet.

[00:14:32] Erum: versus I know the whimsy of just a few people that were very extractive back in the day. I mean, gosh, I can't believe that happened. It just seems like such a nightmare.

[00:14:41] Karl: Yeah, I mean, it really became clear in the late 2030s that the more biodiversity a place had, the more rich economically it was going to be.

[00:14:52] Karl: So, parts of Africa, parts of, South America have done very, very well because of the diversity in their In their biology other countries are still playing catch up in terms of rewilding themselves.

[00:15:06] Karl: We were lucky in the United States because we have a lot of space and it was easy to, move people out of certain on very sparsely inhabited places. So those places can't come back. And then there's all the places that have been rewilded with trees that were genetically modified.

[00:15:22] Karl: Many came from Japan. Many came from other places on the planet.

[00:15:26] Erum: well, also because of climate change. I mean, that really is something that we continue to deal with, but we have more command over the climate now that we learned more efficiently on how to harness solar power. so that we were able to control the climate and that also helped with rewilding. as well as there was already tons of barren land back in 2024.

[00:15:48] Erum: So we were able to take a look at that. and. Not only the organisms that were already there, but we also engineered some organisms to help with certain climates because the rate at which we needed things rewilded needed to grow a little bit faster and a little bit differently than what happened prior to organism engineering.

[00:16:08] Erum: organism engineering became a bit more accessible in the late 2020s. But do you remember that there was just a few organism engineering companies? you were part of this early days.

[00:16:18] Karl: yeah. I mean, now it's everywhere. Anyone can organize them, basically in your home. And if it's more complicated, you can just go down the street and do it. There's a place in every neighborhood that lets you engineer an organism to do something.

[00:16:29] Erum: Yeah. Yeah. The community biotech labs, gen space is in like every single county now. So you can engineer whatever you want.

[00:16:36] Karl: Yeah. I mean, that comes with its pros and its cons, but mostly they're pros.

[00:16:40] Erum: Yeah, man. Good thing. We have that biosecurity and release frameworks that have been established.

[00:16:46] Karl: And that people take seriously.

[00:16:48] Erum: yeah, people take serious, I mean, because, we at least have a better disposition in life now that we have a better understanding of what's valuable life and all forms. there's been a lot more respect.

[00:17:01] Erum: It's Campbell. It was a wild, a wild West, the 20. Twenties, man. That's

[00:17:06] Karl: Yeah. I mean, do you remember, when we used to do this podcast, we used to do it on a laptop and we used to use, metal and glass phones. Do you remember that?

[00:17:14] Erum: Oh my God. Yeah. I think I still have one as a relic. I think I cleaned up one of my old Mac book pros. I think that's what they were called. I have it like displayed. It's kind of cool. I mean, I use it as a frame, it just doesn't work on today's, computation systems, but now we have these bone and fluidic phones, they run on DNA data storage. I mean, 2024 things get really crazy, really quick, especially when the first quantum chips hit the market. Oof.

[00:17:45] Karl: Yeah. I'm going to apologize right now because this connection isn't so great. And it's only because this camera that I'm using today, I over watered it. so I think the water here on Baffin Island might be heavy on metals and I didn't purify it. So if my connection is not that great, that's the reason why.

[00:18:02] Erum: Yeah. , I feel like our 2024 listeners are like, what? Is going on, but yeah, we can grow phones. it's just crazy the way the world has shifted in 30 years.

[00:18:15] Karl: So what do we want to tell our friends since we're beaming this episode back in time?

[00:18:20] Erum: oh gosh, friends of 2024, I would say. Invest in space in quantum computing, just keep her eye on the ball. What about you, Carl?

[00:18:30] Karl: You know, follow the biology we used to say, follow the money. Instead we say, follow the biology, not just the money because it delivers the food, the ingredients and the materials that we use every day and also allow us to move off planet.

[00:18:45] Erum: Yeah. the big thing to say to our friends in 2024, our listeners of the podcast is that we were right. We can grow everything. So keep listening to our pod because things are about to get crazy and you'll want to know what's going on.

[00:19:00] Erum: so where are you headed, Carl? What are you off to do next in our year of 2054

[00:19:04] Karl: I'm going off to a meditation retreat in Patagonia. Sounds good.

[00:19:08] Erum: Oh, nice We've all learned that penetration is super important, like all the powers of the mind that we just gain from meditation. So that's really cool that you're doing that.

[00:19:18] Karl: Yeah, how about you? What are you going to do?

[00:19:20] Erum: I'm just going to chill, spend time with my grandkids and enjoy the nature of biology.

[00:19:26] Karl: That's beautiful. I think that's the part.

[00:19:29] Erum: See you guys in the future, which is the present moment. Now, the now is all that exists. Okay. All right. See ya.

[00:19:40] Erum: Bye.

[00:19:42] Karl: thanks for listening. This is the disclaimer. What you heard is a fictional depiction of life in the future, not an actual recording from the future transmitted to today. We hope you enjoyed it and it sparked some ideas and more questions as you navigate your purpose in life.

[00:19:59] Erum: what you just heard was a fictional depiction of life in the future, not an actual recording from the future transmitted to today. So we hope that you enjoy it and it sparks some ideas and more questions as you navigate your purpose in life.

[00:20:11] Erum: Thanks for listening.

[00:20:13] Erum:

[00:20:13] Erum: What you're about to hear is a fictional depiction of life in the future, not an actual recording from the future transmitted to today. This is not an actual recording.

[00:20:24] Erum: This is a fictional depiction. We hope you enjoy what you're about to hear and it sparks ideas and more questions for you as you navigate your purpose in life.

[00:20:34] Karl: what you're about to hear is a fictional depiction of life in the future. Not an actual recording that was from the future transmitted to today. We hope you enjoy it and it sparks some ideas and questions as you navigate your purpose in life.