Episode 149

147: "Shhh…They’re Talking: Holoclara's Dr. Andrea Choe Tunes Into Worm Signals for Health”

· 1:03:45 · Host: Karl Schmieder & Erum Azeez

What if we could treat debilitating diseases by listening in on the "secret, invisible language" of worms? In this groundbreaking episode, we talk with Dr. Andrea Choe, Co-Founder and CEO of Holoclara, who uncovered a "universal worm language" used for hundreds of millions of years. Dr. Choe…

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Chapters

  1. 00:00:00 — Welcome to Grow Everything Podcast
  2. 00:00:18 — NYC Biotech and Climate Week Recap
  3. 00:08:43 — Science News: Comets and Octopuses
  4. 00:15:17 — Meet Dr. Andrea Choe
  5. 00:15:52 — From Researcher to Founder: The Call to Action
  6. 00:17:25 — Discovering the Universal "Worm Language"
  7. 00:25:11 — Connecting Worm Secretions to Therapeutics
  8. 00:29:49 — How Modern Hygiene Created an Immune Imbalance
  9. 00:34:35 — Navigating the Hurdles of Natural Medicine
  10. 00:38:50 — Holoclara's Mission to Treat Eosinophilic Esophagitis (EoE)
  11. 00:42:25 — Holoclara's Phase 1 Safety and Trial Results
  12. 00:51:03 — Moonshot Vision: A "Worm Atlas" of Molecules
  13. 00:52:28 — The Strategy for Patenting Natural Molecules
  14. 00:54:33 — Worm Superpowers & Immune Myths
  15. 00:58:25 — Reflecting on Nature's Untapped Answers
  16. 01:02:41 — Coming Up on Grow Everything

Show notes

What if we could treat debilitating diseases by listening in on the "secret, invisible language" of worms? In this groundbreaking episode, we talk with Dr. Andrea Choe, Co-Founder and CEO of Holoclara, who uncovered a "universal worm language" used for hundreds of millions of years. Dr. Choe reveals how our modern "aggressive hygiene routine" removed the worms we co-evolved with, leading to a rise in allergic and autoimmune diseases. Discover how her team is pioneering a new class of safe, orally available therapies by synthesizing worm-derived molecules that "rebalance" our immune systems and have already blocked disease in animal models. This is a fascinating journey from a fundamental discovery in evolutionary biology to the cutting edge of biotech innovation.

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Chapters:


  • (00:00:00) Welcome to Grow Everything Podcast

  • (00:00:18) NYC Biotech and Climate Week Recap

  • (00:08:43) Science News: Comets and Octopuses

  • (00:15:17) Meet Dr. Andrea Choe

  • (00:15:52) From Researcher to Founder: The Call to Action

  • (00:17:25) Discovering the Universal "Worm Language"

  • (00:25:11) Connecting Worm Secretions to Therapeutics

  • (00:29:49) How Modern Hygiene Created an Immune Imbalance

  • (00:34:35) Navigating the Hurdles of Natural Medicine

  • (00:38:50) Holoclara's Mission to Treat Eosinophilic Esophagitis (EoE)

  • (00:42:25) Holoclara's Phase 1 Safety and Trial Results

  • (00:51:03) Moonshot Vision: A "Worm Atlas" of Molecules

  • (00:52:28) The Strategy for Patenting Natural Molecules

  • (00:54:33) Worm Superpowers & Immune Myths

  • (00:58:25) Reflecting on Nature's Untapped Answers

  • (01:02:41) Coming Up on Grow Everything


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Topics Covered: 

immune system, biotherapeutics, worms, evolution, helminthic immunomodulation, medicine, pharmaceuticals

  

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